Mitchell Esajas is Chairman and Co-founder of New Urban Collective; a culturally diverse network that focuses on education and support young professionals with migrant backgrounds, especially those of African descent, to strengthen their socioeconomic positions. He also works actively across the Netherlands to reduce racism. Thiëmo Heilbron is Founder and Director at Fawaka Nederland, an initiative that aims to show-case the positive environmental and social work that individuals from across the 190 cultural backgrounds in the Netherlands are doing, thus acting as role models to inspire others. In their interview they explain the roots of institutional racism, the personal impact it has on individuals in our societies today; and the work their organisations are doing to address racism in the Netherlands.